| We learned from President Elizabeth Griego's December 7, 2010 email to members that "The Proposal, as currently written, provides a conceptual and structural blueprint for what a new association MIGHT [emphasis added]look like. If the vote on the Plan is in favor of consolidation, it is INTENDED [emphasis added]that the framework provided by the Proposal will be REVIEWED AND VETTED MORE BROADLY [emphasis added] by the membership."
Fellow members, as you can see, the Proposal is a work in progress which has been readily available on the NASPA web site but the Plan which is what we're being asked to vote on is less readily available. Since both are not in fianl form I don't understand why one is so readily available and the other is not.
Therefore if you'd like to see the Plan as it stands now, here is the link to it in the Board section of the NASPA web site:
http://www.naspa.org/about/boarddocs/1210/Plan.pdf
Some who favor consolidation have stated that this is just a natural evolution for NASPA and that NASPA won't go away. Not so if we vote for the Plan (i.e., in favor of consolidation)according to point 2 in the Plan which states ". . . ACPA and NASPA will cease to exist."
So we're being asked to approve the Plan (to eliminate ACPA and NASPA.) Then, while a Proposal for what "New Association" MIGHT look like according to President Griego, exists that may or may not in fact be what it will look like because it will be "reviewed and vetted more broadly by the membership" likely over the next two years.
In all candor, I have to ask a not so rhetorical question: Have any of you ever been asked to cast a vote so impactful - which would eliminate two long standing professional associations - for an alternative that is still not in its final form? I certainly haven't and therefore I intend to vote NO and I would encourage others to do so to avoid giving up a vibrant, successful, known quantity (NASPA and ACPA) for what approaches "buying a pig in a poke." |
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| Posted by: Roger W. Sorochty, VP Enrollment & Student Services, The University of Tulsa on February 10, 2011 at 1:13 PM EST |
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| Thanks to the consolidation team for putting together a creative and thoughtful plan for the future.
The lack of inclusion of a dedicated space for women's professional development in student affairs is unfortunate, and the lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender community and our allies also hoped and expected for explicit recognition in the new association. The professional path of being a women's center or a LGBT center director is unique, and deserves its own community of practice. To echo Gail, the Journal about Women in Higher Education is an important home for scholarship on gender in our field, and should be reconsidered for retention.
A "comment and question' period for the new proposal would be ideal, so that the membership can weigh in on (and suggest modifications to) the proposed structure before the vote. Thanks for considering. |
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| Posted by: Susan Marine, Assisant Dean of Harvard College and Director, Harvard College Women's Center, Harvard University on December 2, 2010 at 1:58 PM EST |
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| I commend the Consolidation Committee on the thoughtful proposal to date. That said, I recommend that the committee add Women's Centers and Programs in its list of Communities of Practice. NASPA's Center for Women and WISA have done important work in creating a professional home for colleagues who work in Women's Centers and Programs, and I know ACPA also has a history of supporting women's programs. Although women have made great strides in student affairs, the challenges facing women in achieving equity are still quite remarkable. I am sure this omission was an simply due to the scope of the task, and hope that it can be changed soon. Thank you. |
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| Posted by: Peg Lonnquist, Director, Women's Center, Office for Equity and Diversity, University of Minnesota on November 29, 2010 at 3:47 PM EST |
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| As Association and its membership move forward in considering a consolidation between NASPA and ACPA to form a new association, I would urge the NASPA Board to discuss a process that would allow graduate students to weigh in on this issue. I understand the NASPA bylaws do not allow graduate members to cast a vote on this issue. While direct voting might not be an option, there are other ways to poll graduate students regarding their support and endorsement of a new association. One suggestion would be to send a separate survey to graduate students with the hopes that the results will be taken into consideration regarding consolidation. This could look similar to the “special” survey that was distributed to just SSAO to poll their support of the consolidation.
On a more personal note: while I hold memberships in both NASPA and ACPA, NASPA has been my home association for the past 10 years. It has been the association that I have committed my professional volunteering time towards by serving in leadership positions at both the regional and national level. Moreover, I have always valued NASPAs commitment towards being an inclusive association. I have always felt included and that I belonged within the Association. This was true until I found out that graduate students were not going to be allowed to cast a vote regarding the consolidation. For the first time, I felt truly marginalized as a member. Again, I understand the bylaws and the governing structure do not afford graduate students the opportunity to vote. However, I believe the only right thing to do, the only inclusive thing to do, is to create a format that will allow NASPA graduate students to voice their opinion regarding the consolidation of the two associations.
Lastly, I would like to thank the Consolidation Committee for their work in putting together this thoughtful document regarding the consolidation of the two organizations. |
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| Posted by: Carrie Kortegast, Doctoral Candidate, Iowa State University on November 29, 2010 at 1:27 PM EST |
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| I commend the Consolidation Committee on its work throughout the process. One of my thoughts is that within the Communities of Practice that we continue to have a community that is focused upon student affairs professionals working in academic affairs. There are many professionals that work within academic units (as opposed to a central student affairs unit) who are committed to the values of our profession. Although they may also align with other associations directly related to their functional areas (i.e., advising and NACADA, for many of these professionals NASPA and/or ACPA is their "home" and connection to our collective work with college students. As institutions look to decentralize many of their efforts, we are starting to see more student affairs type work happening within the academic units, and I think it is important we continue to recognize and give space for dialogue among this group of professionals. |
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| Posted by: Nicole Letawsky Shultz, Director, Student Services for the College of Biological Sciences, University of Minnesota - Twin Cities on November 18, 2010 at 6:35 PM EST |
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| I commend the Consolidation Committee on the thoughtful and thorough proposal they have brought to the table. I generally support the working concept and trust that the executive board will ensure that the business aspects of the consolidation are sound. It seems to me that ultimately, it is in the business details where the deal is either made or set aside.
That said, if the consolidation moves forward, I urge the committee to reconsider its omission of Women's Centers and Programs in its list of Communities of Practice, and the question mark it has placed over the Journal About Women in Higher Education. NASPA's Center for Women and WISA have done important work in creating a professional home for colleagues who work in Women's Centers and Programs; the consolidation, as proposed, negates that work and eclipses NASPA's and ACPA's historic links to the associations organized by deans of women. Having worked with NASPA's Center for Women since its beginning and served as its past chair, I think this is a serious oversight. |
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| Posted by: Gail Hanson, Vice President of Campus Life, American University on November 16, 2010 at 4:28 PM EST |
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| I agree with Michael O. that there is much to be gained from cooperation and collaboration between the associations, but partnering up doesn't require ending two associations to build a third that offers more complex governance, diminished conference experiences, and no operating efficiencies to speak of. Collaboration yes! Consolidation no! |
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| Posted by: George McClellan, Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs, IPFW on November 11, 2010 at 4:27 PM EST |
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| Thanks to all the officers of NASPA and ACPA for your hard work. Since my first ACPA/NASPA conference (Houston, 1983) I've wondered why more of the student services groups (ACUHO-I, ACU-I, NACA, NODA, etc.) don't work more closely or merge. The discussion at NASPA IV-W last week seemed to suggest many individuals are afraid that change will limit their opportunities for professional involvement and development, or "if it ain't broke, it don't need fixin' . . . " We could have a lot more impact nationally and internationally if student affairs/student services professionals join forces to advocate for our students, but maybe that's just pie in the sky thinking on my part? |
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| Posted by: Michael Osterbuhr, Director of Academic Achievement Programs, Butler Community College on November 9, 2010 at 6:08 PM EST |
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| How and when will others who have differing opinions about consolidation and/or the specific points made in the post in today's Forum be given an opportunity to express them using the same means of communication - specifically the NASPA Forum and any and all other venues - in which the "pro" position is being presented?
Roger W. Sorochty VP, Enrollment and Student Services The University of Tulsa |
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| Posted by: Roger W. Sorochty, VP Enrollment & Student Services, The University of Tulsa on November 3, 2010 at 4:20 PM EST |
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| Have we abandoned the other discussion board? Just wondering as posts there are not being responded to.
When will the financial prospectus that underlies the consolidation proposal be released to members? What assumptions, if any, were made regarding institutional memberships moving forward? |
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| Posted by: George McClellan, VCSA, IPFW on November 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM EST |
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| Collaboration is all about trust, and once you lose that, it is almost impossible to get back. The Board needs to consider what is in the best interest of the profession, rather than what is in the best interest of NASPA to realize our shared vision with ACPA. Student affairs continues to be marginalized in higher education, but we have too much too offer our academic communities to continue our present course as separate entities. One voice, one mission, one vision from one association is the best way to ensure the viability of our profession, the development of our students, and the impact of our institutions. |
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| Posted by: Craig Seal, Director, University of the Pacific on October 20, 2010 at 10:00 AM EST |
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| I like the plan very much. A lot of thought went into the document's development. I was very impressed with the level of specificity provided given there is still some level of questionability as to how it will play out.
I like the social identities group and think people will naturally assemble into subgroups within these broad groups.
I think the Communities of Practice are comprehensive. I am particularly happy you used CAS Standards to guide their formation.
Task teams could play important roles and could replace some of the ad hoc workgroups that have popped up. Like that there may be a more ongoing examination of competencies, etc. by a standing group.
Emphasizing the international scope of the association is appropriate and welcomed. That said, are you prepared to address concerns about conference location? Could the association have a viable annual conference outside of the US?
I think making the regional conferences topical, institute like is a good move. I think partnering with other associations to host these meetings will be good. For example, if AFA has an annual conference in St. Louis in 2011, could the regional meeting be held in conjunction. "New Association" has to think of how to not duplicate and to also meet the needs of the members.
I think this proposal also permits extensive and meaningful involvement by members. The role of governance is well explained and I can see how many can support the overall goal of strong management for the Association. |
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| Posted by: Dan, Doctoral Candidate, Indiana University on October 18, 2010 at 10:36 PM EST |
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| I was pleased to see Spirituality/Religion as its own entity in the Communities of Practice.
I've appreciated the transparency of the process as well! |
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| Posted by: Rob Engblom, Executive Director of Housing and Residence Life, Davenport University on October 15, 2010 at 12:26 PM EST |
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| I am impressed by the work of the associations in thoroughly considering consolidation. One comment I have is that the Multicultural Affairs Community of Practice be renamed (and possibly re-envisioned) to clearly encompass a variety of advocacy units that relate to social identity (such as women's centers and LGBT centers). In both existing associations, these functional areas have not had a 'community of practice' home. As a result, many women's centers associate more closely with the National Women's Studies Association than they do with ACPA and NASPA. Although the social identity communities offer some sense of home for these functional areas, their clientele is more broad, and as a result they (understandably) do not provide the 'functional area' type support needed.
By renaming the Community of Practice 'Advocacy about Social Identity' or something to that effect, the New Association will have the opportunity to provide a forum for administrators who work in advocacy related areas that will enable them to explore how to support students' intersecting dimensions of identity. |
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| Posted by: Jody Jessup-Anger, Assistant Professor, Marquette University on October 8, 2010 at 4:41 PM EST |
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| Overall, I congratulate the committee on a thorough process. Two smaller points:
I'm not sure I agree that Spirituality / Religion makes sense as an entity separate from Multicultural Affairs in the "Communities of Practice" list. Many institutions keep these separate, but many combine them, just as LGBT student services are sometimes with multicultural units and sometimes not. If Spirituality and Religion are kept separate, then I would propose that Women's Issues and LGBT Student Services also be separate (indeed, LGBT services has separate CAS standards).
I am also concerned with New York's placement with the Northeast District. The public transportation systems make it much easier for downstate New Yorkers to collaborate with the Mid-Atlantic district than not. I acknowledge, however, that the same is not true for upstate New York. Is there anything that mandates the entire state must be kept together?
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| Posted by: Will Simpkins, Director, Career Development Services, John Jay College of Criminal Justice on October 8, 2010 at 4:10 PM EST |
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